Comments on: Concerned Singleplayer, Part 2: MP Achievements http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/ General mind-dump of Jonas Wæver Mon, 06 Feb 2012 10:01:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jonas http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/comment-page-1/#comment-719 Jonas Sun, 10 Feb 2008 02:16:17 +0000 http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/#comment-719 Yeah CoD4's way sounds more attractive. I was quite interested in trying out some CoD4 MP because of the RPG-ish systems they implemented, but I could never find anybody I know to play with, and I don't think it's the sort of game I'll enjoy playing against strangers. Yeah CoD4′s way sounds more attractive. I was quite interested in trying out some CoD4 MP because of the RPG-ish systems they implemented, but I could never find anybody I know to play with, and I don’t think it’s the sort of game I’ll enjoy playing against strangers.

]]> By: NVShacker http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/comment-page-1/#comment-718 NVShacker Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:27:24 +0000 http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/#comment-718 Some of Halo 3's MP achievements are decent because you can only get them in a ranked free for all playlist (there's only one right now) which means that cheating them is next to impossible since you can't choose who you play with. A couple of them are really hard too, namely Overkill and Steppin' Razor, both of which I've gotten close to getting but never actually gotten. Most of the time they're lame because people will "boost" in a public MP game and actually make it less fun (and the point of the achievements moot). COD4 probably had the right idea with all SP achievements and MP unlocks for various tasks. Some of Halo 3′s MP achievements are decent because you can only get them in a ranked free for all playlist (there’s only one right now) which means that cheating them is next to impossible since you can’t choose who you play with. A couple of them are really hard too, namely Overkill and Steppin’ Razor, both of which I’ve gotten close to getting but never actually gotten. Most of the time they’re lame because people will “boost” in a public MP game and actually make it less fun (and the point of the achievements moot). COD4 probably had the right idea with all SP achievements and MP unlocks for various tasks.

]]> By: Jonas http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/comment-page-1/#comment-716 Jonas Fri, 08 Feb 2008 21:54:53 +0000 http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/#comment-716 I agree completely. You're absolutely right :) I agree completely. You’re absolutely right :)

]]> By: Daniel http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/comment-page-1/#comment-714 Daniel Fri, 08 Feb 2008 20:44:13 +0000 http://rooc.offtopicproductions.com/blog/2008/02/08/concerned-singleplayer-part-2-mp-achievements/#comment-714 I dislike MP achievements for another reason too. If your only interested in the achievement they're really easy to cheat your way through. For example, one of Team Fortresses new achievements FYI I AM A SPY (yeap, based on the <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29RE0blCV84" rel="nofollow">movie</a>) is probably going to be gained with a lot of people taking it in turns stabbing each other. Still I do love achievements. As you've said they're an excellent way to make players go through the game over and over and they play on one of the oldest reasons people enjoy games. Bragging Rights. Any good game design book will tell you bragging rights are tremendously important... at least they were back in the days of arcades, but until achievements came along they were lost on home gaming. While achievements are a nice little sticker in your metaphorical gaming passport, for MP I prefer raw statistics. Again TF2 seems to do this best. Using Steam you can compare your damage dealt / number of kills / etc for any character against any of your friends. This is a little more complicated however. ... Did I mention <a href="http://dansdev.blogspot.com/2007/10/lucifer-sighted-in-episode-2.html" rel="nofollow">Bragging</a> <a href="http://steamcommunity.com/id/deusdiablo/stats/HL2:EP2" rel="nofollow">Rights</a>? I dislike MP achievements for another reason too. If your only interested in the achievement they’re really easy to cheat your way through. For example, one of Team Fortresses new achievements FYI I AM A SPY (yeap, based on the movie) is probably going to be gained with a lot of people taking it in turns stabbing each other.

Still I do love achievements. As you’ve said they’re an excellent way to make players go through the game over and over and they play on one of the oldest reasons people enjoy games. Bragging Rights.

Any good game design book will tell you bragging rights are tremendously important… at least they were back in the days of arcades, but until achievements came along they were lost on home gaming.

While achievements are a nice little sticker in your metaphorical gaming passport, for MP I prefer raw statistics. Again TF2 seems to do this best. Using Steam you can compare your damage dealt / number of kills / etc for any character against any of your friends. This is a little more complicated however.

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Did I mention Bragging Rights?

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